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Sanctuary

My journey into jazz and jazz preferences

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Like many people when i was growing up I only really listened to chart music, i.e. pop and rock. As a late teenager and young adult my musical interests started to specialise and deepen, principally into soul music of which I am still a great devotee.

There is a crossover between soul and funk into jazz funk and i became interested in some of these sounds. That widened into soulful jazz fusion. After a while this enveloped jazz rock, most notably via the work of Miles Davis and early Weather Report. Then came an interest in the much more challenging and experimental "free jazz" such as Archie Shepp and Pharoah Sanders. Ultimately i started to explore some more mainstream jazz sounds.

My jazz preferences still largely comprise a twenty year period from the mid-1950s and the onset of hard bop through to the mid-1970s. The earlier and later periods don't really appeal to me although i haven't heard much mainstream jazz from the last few decades. While there may be some big fans of jazz on Asperclick it would also be interesting to hear the thoughts of those who perhaps only like the crossover material or perhaps particular artists / collaborations. Jazz has been very influential, even if that influence sometimes slips under the radar.

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Gone home

In the 1980s I spent 5-6 years visiting the council record library .... I'd borrow 6 albums and record what interested me before doing the same a week or two later.  It exposed me to alot of music I would never had come across otherwise. Before that I was into guitar hero type rock music (which I don't like very much now apart for the sake of nostalgia). Things naturally progressed to jazz, classical, folk, world etc. with continued exposure to new material. 
Nowadays I don't restrict myself to any genres ... I also don't seem to have the time to be too focused as there seems alot of daily responsibilities to try and take care of currently ...

Regarding crossover ... I quite like some movie soundtracks as they are not ego based. Dave Grusin and comrades have produced some nice pieces. 

Music is an interesting phenomenon as the sounds alone can stimulate intense emotion ... or intellectual interest if you study structure.

I'd like to play with people, but it doesn't happen due to isolation. I guess that where aspergers can be a pain - when you want to participate in activities that require socialisation

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My interest in jazz lies mainly in jazz fusion, which has some overlap with progressive rock. While exploring progressive rock, I also delved into jazz fusion/jazz rock, and came to appreciate the work of artists such as Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, Mahavishnu Orchestra, or artists with strong jazz influences such as Modry Efekt, If, Blood, Sweat and Tears, Frank Zappa, and artists which combine jazz and ethnic styles, like Arco Iris, Mekaal Hasan Band or Lot Lorien.

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Sanctuary

Interesting thoughts and recollections Gone Home and Nesf. It's true that immersion in one type of music often leads to exploration elsewhere. When I was becoming deeply involved in soul music I would study the personnel - the musicians and producers - and these would lead me to seek out their own works or other albums they'd been involved in. Quite a lot of the musicians had jazz backgrounds and were very talented instrumentalists. The same happened when I started to explore jazz rock, e.g. those who worked with Miles Davis. I also read a lot about the music and that led me to explore different albums and artists. Some jazz artists such as Hubert Laws also had classical influences and that encouraged me to dip my toe in the waters of classical music which also went on to become a major musical interest. There's some great music in almost every genre (one or two such as country music  continue to elude me) but principally I come back to three: soul; jazz; classical.

Re jazz and prog rock I quite like Soft Machine who are on the border of jazz rock / prog rock. An interesting album is "Colours of Chloe" by German bassist Eberhard Weber from around 1975 which ostensibly is jazz but could easily pass as a prog album. It was on the ECM label and a lot of its releases are nominally jazz but cross over into other genres.

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Gone home

I used to love the ECM label, Jan Garbarek was a favourite

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6 minutes ago, Sanctuary said:

When I was becoming deeply involved in soul music I would study the personnel - the musicians and producers - and these would lead me to seek out their own works or other albums they'd been involved in.

Thats what I miss about album covers ... they were historical documents and always provided a direction for further listening

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1 minute ago, Gone home said:

Thats what I miss about album covers ... they were historical documents and always provided a direction for further listening

That's absolutely true Gone Home. I think it's really important to know who's actually made the music, not just the headline artist. As we move more into a download age or people listening online it can become harder to find out who played on a particular track or album.

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4 hours ago, Sanctuary said:

I think it's really important to know who's actually made the music, not just the headline artist

The background accompaniment and overall chemistry is often the greater slice of the pudding .... Session musicians (when followed) take us to all kinds of new musical acts.
In another lifetime I would like to be a professional musician. I'm too old for this one and there is too much reliance on processing and gizmos for me to easily understand. 
Some brilliant works made on 78s without any of that ... and I expect before the invention of recorded medium too!

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On ‎26‎/‎09‎/‎2017 at 9:32 AM, Gone home said:

I used to love the ECM label, Jan Garbarek was a favourite

I was particularly interested to hear his early albums because some of the tracks employed the "bass saxophone" rather than his usual tenor and I was curious to hear the sound. It's a distinctive rumble but it's not surprising it's never become a lead instrument! Leaving aside that unusual element I thought those were pretty good albums and generally I feel the early works of most artists in any genre are their best. This is often when their ideas are freshest and - if they later become popular - less likely to be affected by commercialism or complacency.

 

On ‎25‎/‎09‎/‎2017 at 5:38 PM, Nesf said:

My interest in jazz lies mainly in jazz fusion, which has some overlap with progressive rock. While exploring progressive rock, I also delved into jazz fusion/jazz rock, and came to appreciate the work of artists such as Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, Mahavishnu Orchestra, or artists with strong jazz influences such as Modry Efekt, If, Blood, Sweat and Tears, Frank Zappa, and artists which combine jazz and ethnic styles, like Arco Iris, Mekaal Hasan Band or Lot Lorien.

The fusion works of Miles Davis and Herbie Hancock are huge favourites of mine, especially Herbie's early seventies albums "Mwandishi" and "Crossings" which are more experimental and radical. The Mahavishnu Orchestra didn't work for me but John McLaughlin is a great guitarist. His "Love-Devotion-Surrender" album with Carlos Santana is one of my all-time favourites.

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Gone home

Not a fan of Johns style (too fidgety for me) .... but I did like some of his work with Phillip Catherine.

I think Jan Garbarek album 'My Song' is a classic.
Bill Connors album 'of mist and melting' another classic .
 

There are so many. Thanks to media 'playlists' of old, most people have never heard of so many of the accomplished groundbreaking musicians.

 

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