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O.K. So let's address these points. You asked me what expressing emotion has to do with it. Well, basically you have a habit of apparently attempting to discredit me by resorting to emotional, personal attacks. Not that it phases me in any way but, for instance: You describe my speech as "nothing but air." Then you refer to "poor listening skills." Presumably my listening skills wouldn't be poor if I'd simply accepted the views you promote as gospel. Then you ask who so few people bother (following my line). My resonse is simply nowhere in any of my dialogue did I need to question your "rating" and how others may perceive your particular view, or status. Neither have I described what you stated as "nothing but air". I sincerely hope this isn't how you practise psychology in a consultancy. Apart from that it betrays emotion and a sense of entitlement but enough of that. Let us address the other points: You said no social ability = no learning. You complained I wasn't listening to your views outlined earlier but I did explain that previously. I stated for neurotypicals the learning process is inter-communicational. The learning process is roughly 50/50 cognitive and social. Therefore neurotypicals function collectively in family environment, school and work. They require other authority figures to teach them. As to environment you can read Paul Cooijman. He states "resistance" to social environment is stronger in autistics. Some more than others. In my own case the resistance was very strong from very early age and thus I was poorly socialised. However, that made me far more able to formulate more independent views and less prone to "tagging along with the majority." Further on that line both Einstein and Tesla seemed to pay attention to the difficulty of freeing thinking from external bias that influences the way people collectively view phenomena and conceptualise. So, I never intended to state autistics are immune to the social environment but they tend to be more resistant to it. According to Tesla the majority of people are simply biological robots. They evolved the ability to think over thousands of years. They die and knowledge is passed on from generation to generation. And when they get stuck along comes a Tesla, an Einstein or a Charles Darwin to solve complex issues that collectively haven't been solved in the classroom.

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And now the context behind Hans Asperger. Before discussing it, suffice it to say Asperger and his medical experts concluded it was a neurological divergence. The children studied were bordering on hospitalization. It appears any plan to exterminate HFA children was abandoned. Chillingly I suppose the plan was to try and eliminate the defective traits and breed a race of supermen. This is no fiction or fantasy. There were other children in Norway confined to institutions after WW2. These were the offspring of German soldiers and Norwegian women - part of a Eugenics program. The actress Marta Kristen was one of these children rescued from an orphanage. This is the source of the autism diagnosis today, taken to the USA and adopted by Lorna Wing. The Germans also were developing the V2 rockets and space flight. These scientists pretty much ran the Apollo Lunar Mission. Especially interesting was the research into parapsychology and areas such as communication of dolphins. Ironic really that a criminal, barbaric regime such as Nazi Germany realised the folly of trying to do away with autistics. Purely from a scientific view it made no sense.

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Kroge

I think I should clarify that in no way am I singling you out. I am just addressing you because this thread is made by you and for you. The reality is that the vast majority of people have very, very poor listening skills with only a few exceptions. And those exceptions almost always had to learn the ability deliberately.

I am not going to bother again because you clearly have your own views of what I'm saying and you are sticking to them no matter what. Nothing I said is meant as an attack but I always knew that you were most likely going to perceive it that way, so I do not mind that much. Everything I have said is an effort to provide you with valuable insight into yourself so as to improve your life. As with anything, you can take it or leave it, and reap the cause and effect of whatever choice you make. It is just not a good use of my free time to continuously make detailed point-after-point to someone who only cares about his own ideas, and I strongly suspect that if you chose to absorb this feedback then most of your interpersonal encounters would look entirely different to you. If you perceive attack then that is perfectly normal. Insight into oneself is rarely a feel-good process. It's a sight better than being stuck, though.

Hans Asperger was hardly pure of heart and just because his science was the first does not make it the most valid. Quite the opposite. The whole concept of the scientific method is based on progression. Originality does not denote purity in scientific discovery. He seemed fine with selecting children for extermination.

Personally I don't go for idols because it's more of a fantasy ideal than anything else. I prefer to focus on my own ideals rather than project them onto public figures who I never knew. You go on about historical stuff a lot which is fine, it's just not my thing. Personally I don't care much about people's ideas of history because it's pretty much never accurate to the reality, it's just pure projection.

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Kroge
16 hours ago, Dr-David-Banner said:

You asked me what expressing emotion has to do with it. Well, basically you have a habit of apparently attempting to discredit me by resorting to emotional, personal attacks. Not that it phases me in any way but, for instance: You describe my speech as "nothing but air." Then you refer to "poor listening skills." 

I will address this last point because this really sums it up. Go back and read what I actually said. And I mean physically stop reading right now, and scroll right back up to find the exact sentence where I said the "nothing but air" bit.

As a courtesy I will also quote it for you, because I honestly don't think you will even take 5 seconds to go back and read it, but it is important you read the original post for yourself:

18 hours ago, Kroge said:

- Nothing I said is about fitting in to social expectation. You are projecting this and it's simply not what I am saying. I cannot be any more direct yet the words I use seem to be nothing but air.

There you go. Evidence of your listening skills. Take it or leave it.

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Dr-David-Banner

There is one small example worth mentioning. Above you stated you weren't too concerned about Hans Asperger. Then you remark he had no issue studying children with a view to eliminating them. So, using your tactic of argument I could equally point out you didn't read my post. You will see I had stated the German authorities had recognised that neurological deviation wasn't akin to defect. Therefore Asperger's work with the children wasn't conducted with a view to eradicate them. So really you seem to have dismissed my comments on that. Here I'm just showing how it's possible to make a smoke screen. You are correct my speech can easily slip into thought as if nobody else is present. It's because I study a lot so it sometimes happens I just verbally analyse. I also am aware I experience racing, varied thoughts. I may jump like a slipped needle on a vinyl disk. However, I am autistic (or self-emerged). My information processing in inward. I am maybe more aware of my oddities than most people are aware of their own. Later maybe I will explain a bit about the subconscious mind..

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Dr-David-Banner

I should perhaps clarify the paradox of listening skills. For example I can listen to pretty much any song and deduce the chords by ear. Sometimes I may struggle but usually I get there. Also when listening to overdubbed movies, I can spot the translation errors. They do exist. I can also break peoples' speech patterns to distinguish one from another. We all tend to have speech patterns that act like fingerprints. So, on the one hand, my attention level is poor but, being so poor, it increases in other areas.

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So many ideas and comments can be thrown around here. When you study psychology it's wise to be aware that it perceives people on the autism spectrum to be defective, ill, badly adjusted, in need of medication. And I cannot stress this enough: You have to be extremely wary of being talked into this notion that being neurotypical is an ideal. Earlier on in this thread, Kroge cited issues such as dyspraxia, anxiety, OCD and poor spatial awareness as proof A.S is an defective condition. Yet he doesn't consider the stresses involved with a condition where an individual cannot relate to others from early age. For the simple reason the autistic mind functions differently. All human beings crave to be understood, valued and accepted. When we are not accepted by family, people at school, work and society, we suffer trauma. I know this to be true since Hikikomori in Japan "develop" similar stress symptoms as with AS. So, we now go back to Hans Asperger who concluded the syndrome was a neurological divergence from normality, but valuable to society. Now, speaking personally, I don't feel I had any support growing up with this condition. There was no diagnosis till around 1990. I spent decades believing I was inferior because it was simply assumed by society that people who lagged behind were either autistic in the bad sense, or retarded. Maybe this has its roots in the dunce's hat where the slow students were made to wear a paper hat with "D" on. It took a long time for me to (1) diagnose HFA and (2) totally reject the concept of being inferior. Now, that doesn't mean I deny being at a big disadvantage due to the poor social instincts I inherited. However, bad as that may be, you do get some other attributes with AS that counterbalance the negative aspect. Anyway, I guess I fail to understand why this country seemingly bends over backwards to organise prayer times in the workplace. Yet those of us on the spectrum are all too often written off as useless. Official data reveals huge numbers of people on the spectrum work in menial jobs. Two AS friends I had worked as cleaner and gardener respectively. One had 2 degrees in maths and geology. Final point. I try not to use AS as an excuse to just drop out. I have NT friends I respect as they work hard in a shop but, for me, it is so stressful to be enclosed with people and all the social rules. From bitter past experience I can make friends in the work place but always some manager will create problems. So I conclude very little tolerance of neurological differences as things are today.

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Paul
On ‎9‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 7:59 PM, Dr-David-Banner said:

you have a habit of apparently attempting to discredit me

I did not get that feeling from Kroge at all. No disrespect is meant. NT's are not out to get us, but I feel like you have grown to be in a state of constant vigilance against any possible slight and have gotten over sensitized and spend time defending yourself. NT's call each other idiot all the time, I bet the girl was really annoyed at her mom before they got to the shop. You should be proud of what you have accomplished, but I sense a feeling that you still doubt, evidenced by the constant defense of your knowledge base. You choose as role models the epidimy of NT society, successful and efficient, fun to be with and then worry that you are not up to their standards.

On ‎9‎/‎10‎/‎2016 at 9:12 PM, Dr-David-Banner said:

Neurotypical engineers get status, flattery, rank and reputation.

It is a psycology version of Keeping up with the Joneses.Your falling out with the boat forum people seems to me more about a practical disagreement and nothing to do with Asperger and they were not willing to admit to being wrong. Lose face, something like that. I do not question that society is unfair, and that ASP is a disability and a disability is not to be ashamed of. In an enlightened society everyone would be valued equally. There is much to be done legally, socially and economically.   Find a job doing something you like, more important than a job that will show you are as good as them. How about restoring boats or antique radios for resale? I am thinking about buying power generators and refurbishing. Should be a good market here in Florida.

Two rules I have for myself regarding the world. Speak when spoken to. Never change the subject. It was taught when I was a child (proper polite behavior) and I relearned this again here. It has helped me with my interactions. Thanks.

For years I never understood why I could not do automotive work at flat rate times, they must cheat or take shortcuts. Asperger kind of fits me.

People who give advice are as annoying as the people who pat pregnant women's bellies. But they mean well. Myself included. No, I do not pat pregnant bellies.

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 4:59 PM, Dr-David-Banner said:

Then her friend called me "a failure".

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 9:36 AM, Kroge said:

But if you want something different then you have to choose differently.

On ‎9‎/‎14‎/‎2016 at 9:35 PM, Dr-David-Banner said:

friends I respect as they work hard in a shop

When you meet someone who has Asperger Syndrome, you might notice two things right off. He's just as smart as other folks, but he has more trouble with social skills. He also tends to have an obsessive focus on one topic or perform the same behaviors again and again. WebMD

On ‎9‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 9:12 AM, Dr-David-Banner said:

one thing that puzzles me is Einstein and other Jewish people considered to be autistic. No sign of any major depression, no sign of anxiety that held them back.

I am sure there are other examples but I believe that the anxiety is a result of early childhood failure to meet parental expectations. Some parents can be quite abusive about it. Jews tend to be more nurturing of their infirm, so where a Christian parent may say you are lazy and stupid, you almost never hear that from a Jewish parent to a struggling child. Kids are expected to work to capacity but there is compassion. Compassion seems to missing from the world as a whole.

 

On ‎9‎/‎14‎/‎2016 at 9:35 PM, Dr-David-Banner said:

I spent decades believing I was inferior because it was simply assumed by society that people who lagged behind were either autistic in the bad sense, or retarded.

Do not let what stupid people think determine your happiness. I think John Lennon would agree.

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Dr-David-Banner

Funny you should mention power transformers. Last night I discovered how to double the inductance value of an air-cored transformer mathematically. So far the transformers I'm more familiar with are fairly low watts. Up to around 80 watts which is very low compared to a 3 kilowatt shoreline isolation transformer. Anyway, the basic formula uses a= diameter n= turns b= length and two are provided. One simply works out the inductance value. The other calculates the turns required to arrive at a value. I was hoping to find out the basic inductance of a shoreline transformer but the units for sale don't quote the figure. However the price!! A decent unit ranges from 500 to 1000 pounds. There must be a way to get by the basic problem of the high load involved. I could easily rig up an isolation transformer on my boat if only to run low wattage. However a kettle would destroy it. The current technology just uses very large windings and the joke runs a typical marine transformer can also double up as ballast.

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Paul
8 hours ago, Dr-David-Banner said:

There must be a way to get by the basic problem of the high load involved

This seems the same concept for wireless phone chargers. Set up two current flows, one in the phone, the other in the recharger cradle, and the power is transferred when they are proximity. They also use inductance cooktops. The equations should be good for the entire range. I imagine that dissipating the heat built up by current flow through the coils is the biggest issue, hence the large physical size of the higher capacity transformers

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