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I've been wanting to get into the audiophile community for a while and finally bought some Sennheiser jubilee 58X from massdrop headphones. They are supposed to arrive Tuesday. I looked around for a while and hope I made a good choice. They were $170 US. The only things I've ever had before were some $20 Skullcandy earbuds you find at Target, Walmart, or even gas stations. But considering I am fairly into music and more recently movies, I decided I should upgrade. Anyone else have experience with these headphones or similar ones? Should I get a DAC or amp? And what do you have and like?

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Peridot

That's cool. Hope you enjoy those. I have Sennheiser headphones which are meant for mixing music. They have a "flat frequency response" which enables you to hear what it is you're doing as a musician. No attenuating or boosting of particular frequencies like is in general the case with "consumer" headphones.

For listening though I've just got some Sony earbuds… I couldn't enjoy a set of good speakers in my living room as I live in an apartment and it would drive my neighbours crazy also as I often listen to the same song over and over.

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Ace
On 8/16/2019 at 4:07 AM, Peridot said:

I couldn't enjoy a set of good speakers in my living room as I live in an apartment and it would drive my neighbours crazy also as I often listen to the same song over and over

haha I guess it depends on the community. I live in a college town so my neighbors sometimes blast their annoying music so I don't mind sometimes playing mine on some speakers. 

On 8/16/2019 at 4:07 AM, Peridot said:

They have a "flat frequency response" which enables you to hear what it is you're doing as a musician

Yea I saw those graphs when buying mine. I always wondered if that was just inherant to the design of headphones or they purposely tune them to not be flat. I understand some people like more bass or treble but why not just have an equalizer on the computer/phone and leave the headphones flat? Always made me wonder how much different I was hearing the song compared to what the artist wrote it as.

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ancus
39 minutes ago, Ace said:

haha I guess it depends on the community. I live in a college town so my neighbors sometimes blast their annoying music so I don't mind sometimes playing mine on some speakers.

I have neighbors with awful taste and huge speakers.  Luckily they don't throw parties so often but I can hear it in my parents' house and it's usually not anything good like sabbath or priest.  I don't know what the hell they listen to, but it's real cruddy.

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Luke

Nice, the HD58X is a great headphone 🙂 

There's an acoustic engineer on Reddit who measures headphones and he has an EQ profile for the HD58X:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/lr0t5bm0g9h167t/Sennheiser HD58X.pdf?dl=0

I have an HD800 and an HD600, I run them out of an audio interface. "audiophile" DACs are borderline snake oil IMO, but it's nice to have a well-measuring DAC for the peace of mind. 

Audio Science Review is a good place to start: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?reviews/

 

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9 hours ago, Luke said:

Nice, the HD58X is a great headphone 🙂 

There's an acoustic engineer on Reddit who measures headphones and he has an EQ profile for the HD58X:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/lr0t5bm0g9h167t/Sennheiser HD58X.pdf?dl=0

I have an HD800 and an HD600, I run them out of an audio interface. "audiophile" DACs are borderline snake oil IMO, but it's nice to have a well-measuring DAC for the peace of mind. 

Audio Science Review is a good place to start: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?reviews/

 

Thanks! I was looking at the EQ you mentioned. I personally do like a little more bass which is why I chose the 58x but I also would like to try the flat EQ sometimes. Do you know what software could do an EQ like that? I'll be using these with windows 10 so I'm sure there is something I can download. Just wasn't sure what they used. 

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On 8/19/2019 at 7:10 AM, Ace said:

Thanks! I was looking at the EQ you mentioned. I personally do like a little more bass which is why I chose the 58x but I also would like to try the flat EQ sometimes. Do you know what software could do an EQ like that? I'll be using these with windows 10 so I'm sure there is something I can download. Just wasn't sure what they used. 

EqualizerAPO: https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/

Here's the same EQ profile, but with a flat bass response instead: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1I4qhqsBS93QL0VpRqdYs0VwKDV1jPYeK

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On 8/22/2019 at 3:56 AM, Luke said:

EqualizerAPO: https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/

Here's the same EQ profile, but with a flat bass response instead: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1I4qhqsBS93QL0VpRqdYs0VwKDV1jPYeK

Thanks! I finally got my headphones! I am in love. and thanks for the info about the flat EQ and Equalizer APO. works perfectly. had to install it with the troubleshooting mode to get it to work but now I am fine tuning my EQ preference. I am just adding mine on top of the flat one. Now all I have to do try to find all my music in higher bit rates if I can and not already high enough.

I asked a friend of mine that has been into audiophile stuff for a while about bit rates. He said 320 Kbps is generally high enough. Anyone else have any input on this? Sounds fine to me and not sure I can even tell the difference going higher

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Peridot

@Ace I once spoke to someone in a fancy audio store and if I remember correctly he compared MP3 to a lower resolution version of a photograph where you can't necessarily tell the difference until you start zooming in. Compression equals loss. It's destructive but I'm not a stickler personally as a listener. Whenever I create MP3s for my on the go listening pleasure it's always 320 Kbps and it sounds perfectly fine.

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On 8/26/2019 at 5:17 AM, Peridot said:

@Ace I once spoke to someone in a fancy audio store and if I remember correctly he compared MP3 to a lower resolution version of a photograph where you can't necessarily tell the difference until you start zooming in. Compression equals loss. It's destructive but I'm not a stickler personally as a listener. Whenever I create MP3s for my on the go listening pleasure it's always 320 Kbps and it sounds perfectly fine.

yea, I've noticed the same. I can't realy tell a difference past 320 Kbps if that.

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